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Wednesday, January 25, 2006

Howard's Response

Howard Rachinski commented on the blog disputing my claim that he hired an "investigator". I want to give him a chance to make his point. Dear Justin & JP, This is Howard Rachinski (really). It has come to my attention you have "informed" your fellow bloggers that I have hired an "investigator". In addition, a few of your bloggers apparently have found it a real delight to take some "shots" at me. How delightful...So...to set the record straight and to help all your fans from getting ulcers, I thought it best to "blog in"...First of all, I have not "hired a PI". In fact, I think that's totally hilarious!!! Whatever could you have been thinking of??? I feel rather sorry that you had to compromise your perspective by spreading such a blatant lie. So, for all those "Howard" haters out there...you are out of luck. I haven't done any such thing. And, Henri, you should know better than that!!! Secondly, to help pacify all those cries of outrage for that "hideous relative connection", my wife's father and Donna Lasit's grandmother are "brother & sister". Oh perish the thought... I can't imagine what all your "outcriers" will do when they discover that we are all related...to Noah...to Adam...Please don't have a heart attack. Thirdly, dear JiminyCricket, ficm, and other "anonymous" contributors, please don't lose any more sleep over my clothes, my hair or my choral conducting. Did that make you really feel better to "diss" me or CCLI? You don't even know me. You don't even know my company. You don't even know how many homes and families we have helped. But, I guess you must have really felt better, huh??? Finally, Justin and JP. I'm surprised. I was one of your "supporters" through Temple Christian, through basketball - giving you encouragement where possible. I'm surprised...because you could help cultivate positive changes...you could make a difference...you could help...So...I'll keep encouraging you to do so...If you, JP or any of your other "contributors" want to talk...let me know...But, please, don't stoop to the lowest possible level of irascibility.You guys are so much better than that!!! The person Howard hired may not have been a "private investigator", but I stand by claim that Howard hired someone to research and investigate JP and I. Also, I've got nothing against Howard Rachinski. I don't really know him. I did play basketball with his son and he was a pretty cool guy. Update 1/24: To thank Howard for offering his opinion, I would like to give his company Songtouch a plug. Last year, when someone told me Howard was starting an online music company for Christian Artists, I remember thinking, "Genius! Why didn't I think of that." There's a reason Howard is successful and it isn't his fancy coat-of-many-colors suit.

28 Comments:

Anonymous Howard Rachinski said...

Justin,
Thank you for allowing me to set the record straight. I really appreciate your willingness to do this.
Again, I have never had anyone research you, your brother or this site. I have no desire to do so, neither do I have a motive for doing so. In fact, I didn't even know about this site until recently. It sounds like someone is greatly misleading you...I'm not sure why.
I would love to talk with you directly about this if you would like. Let's get together, have a Starbucks, or go golfing!
Go Seahawks!!! ha-ha...

1/25/2006 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous KariMichelle said...

Howard,

Thanks for blogging. You (and others out here who read this blog) should know that not everyone here is a CBC, CCLI, PBC, etc hater. Or a Howard-disser.

In fact, I had to really think twice, thrice, quartice (?) about blogging here and choose to do it in anonymity.

However, I was majorly mangled in an MFI church. I gave up "everything" to go and serve and plant my life with the intention of never leaving. The best way I can describe my experience is like being in a maze for 10 years. There were unbiblical and strange things done to me.

Finding this space was and is like free therapy. I don't hate anyone and have forgiven the offenders. But, I do need to talk things through a bit with people who TRULY understand.

Our stories are different, but we share a common bond.
Could our difficulties perhaps be handled differently and more maturely?

Perhaps. But you have to understand that for 10 years, I WAS THE MATURE ONE. I WAS THE ONE WHO WALKED IN FORGIVENESS, AND PUT UP WITH CRAZINESS. I honored God in the way I dealt, and left. And now, I need to be heard and understood a little.

Yet I do so without hurting those who hurt me. Because I've never given any clues to their identity and doubt they will ever read these words or recognize themselves if they do.

It seems that many CBC'ers regularly check in here. To all of them who are offended I offer:

You vote by your presence.

KM

1/25/2006 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Brian K said...

Howard,
What a nice and well thought out response. Thank you for taking time to set the record straight. Hope all is well with you and your family.

Brian

1/25/2006 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous FICM said...

Howard,

Thanks for clearing some things up.

I do know you. Lots of people on this blog know you. Probably more than you think. As a man who is a church leader and a business leader, you don't have the luxury of keeping an entirely private life. The "you don't know me" response was only missing seeing you snap your fingers in a "Z" pattern. Whatever. I prefer to remain relatively anonymous because I still have family and friends in your world that would be hurt or offended if they knew who I was. You can accuse me of what you like in that regard, but everything I speak of I try to remain somewhat objective and have encouraged the bloggers to keep things aboveboard and rumor-free. I am glad you are at least willing to talk about it.

As far as me "dissing" you, I suppose I've said some things that might seem unfair, so let me address the ones that I can remember.

I was confused and incorrect about the relations thing. I even checked with other sources and none of us could seem to get it right. Thanks for making it clear. I still can't help but notice the trend of relations in CBC leadership. No matter how those relations are defined, you are related to at least 6 other pastoral staff at CBC (not including your wife). Some people call that good, other people call it something else.

I know it sounds hurtful for me to talk about your music ministry when it means so much to you. I didn't really mean for it to be a personal attack, I was just making a point about choices in leadership. Lots of people thought you did a fine job as the choral director. But I also know there were people more qualified than you who were passed over. How does that look to oustiders? Without knowing more of that story, I can't help but wonder if the decision making was a product of the culture of BT/CBC rather than sound judgment. Feel free to clear that one up as well.

For what it's worth, I think you are a shrewd businessman and have had some vision for the church music "industry". CCLI has had a worldwide impact that is undeniable and many people owe you a debt of thanks. So, yes, I do know how many people you have helped in that regard.

As far as your clothes, to each his own. But for the record, I still think your fake hair is silly.

1/25/2006 08:25:00 AM  
Blogger KK said...

I don't know anything about this whole line of posting, and it's not really any of my business, but I do want to say that Derek is super cool...I went to Africa with him and about 8 others in 1998, and we had the time of our lives. In fact, oddly enough, I just had a dream about that trip last night, and woke up thinking I was in Bwerenga. Derek--if you're out there, send me an e-mail...I would love to get together for coffee sometime!
Mukwano Gwange! Karli

1/25/2006 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Henri said...

Howard wrote:

>> And, Henri, you should know
>> better than that!!!

Indeed?

Feel free to send me an email with specifics. henri @ etwebhosting.com

1/25/2006 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still think your fake hair is silly. ---

That is funny.

1/25/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger fedup95 (i still have my rock somewhere) said...

Justin-
Shouldn't you at least give Howard and Song Touch a plug for all the trouble.

1/25/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger catalyst said...

I want to say this as delicately as possible, but at the end of the day, I just don't believe Howard.

And this is primarily because in my four years at TCHS, I found the leadership to be less than honest.

Something negative would happen with a leader, and then the leader would twist the facts to support whatever that person wanted to believe.

This wasn't so much out of a desire to lie, but because the leadership was so arrogant, they refused to believe they could do anything wrong.

That said, I don't want to argue about this issue, and frankly I don't care.

I'll take one of our readers advice, give Howard a plug, hopefully call it good and

Agree to Disagree. Agree to Disagree.

1/25/2006 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard sounds like a business man who found a "real" niche.

What's next?

Virginity Brand water to drink up while listening to "As the Dear Panteth".

1/25/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger JiminyCricket81 said...

Howard,

This is what I said in my comment that you took such exception to:

"even if the person who decided to hire the PI is a misguided megalomaniac with maybe the worst hair and clothes in world history....and don't even get me started on his choral conducting...it's the kind of thing that most choirs only see on acid trips"

Now, all of this is an example of hyperbole...my rhetorical device of choice. It was at your expense, it's true, and for that, I'm sorry. If I had thought you'd be reading it, I wouldn't have said it. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that your busy schedule wouldn't allow you time for such things.

Now, point by point:

The "megalomaniac" comment was a little mean, really. But, it had just been alleged that you hired a PI, etc., which (gotta say) is a little megalomaniacal. Why should you care so much what a bunch of people who "don't even know you" say. But, all the same, I'm sorry I said it.

The hair and clothes bit...well, like I said, it was hyperbole, and I wouldn't have said that if I thought you'd read it. But, if you're going to dress/style your hair eccentrically, people are going to notice and comment. It's your right to do what you want with your appearance, but to an extent, it's others' right to talk about it. That being said, again, I'm sorry for hurting your feelings. It wasn't my intent.

Now, on the choral conducting bit, I'm going to stand my ground. If you're not formally trained as a musician, you shouldn't conduct a choir in public. And, if you do, it's disrespectful to people like myself who pursue conducting as a career and spend years of their lives training to actually do what you're pretending to do. So, if you can call me out for being disrespectful with my words, I can certainly call you out for being disrespectful with your actions. Again, my tone wasn't nice and I apologize, but the basis of my critique was entirely justified.

Hope this clears things up. But, speaking as one semi-public figure to another, remember that people do talk about people who are visible. Sometimes they say things that are really nice, and sometimes they say things that aren't. It's an occupational hazard, and it's really a waste of time to complain about it. You're never going to change it....it's part of human nature.

People who see you will think they know you even if they don't. It happens to me in the same way I did it to you. But, if I'm guilty of making assumptions, then so are you. Obviously, I said what I said for some solid reasons, and you assumed I was just attacking blindly.

It's no more just for you to assume than it is for me.

Two wrongs have once again failed to make a right.

1/25/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ewww... As the Deer brings back memories of having to sing that in Mr. Young's English class each morning!

1/25/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've got to give Howard some credit... he had the balls to come on here and address the madness head on. Howard, you're a stud. (By the way, tell your other Executive Team friends that we'd like to see them log on from time to time also.)

1/25/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave my Hawks out of this Howard... he he he
Enjoy the game and have a cold one for me will ya pal.
Uh Oh Did I say cold one?

1/25/2006 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHEN A BLOGGER BLOGS

Howard,

This blog has been getting a lot of comments lately and I want you to know something:

"we traced the Anonymous comments...they’re coming from inside CCLI"

Thanks for the support.

1/25/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter what I think of CCLI I like Howard.

1/25/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger KK said...

How the hell do you trace anonymous comments? I'd like to know for my own blog! Karli

1/25/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Henri said...

Karli,

Each "visit" to the blog, whether it be to post a comment or just visit, is "linked" to an ISP "hostname" and IP address. It is a simple matter to trace backwards to see who "owns" the hostname and/or IP address, and that info will often reveal the location of the visitor.

For example, let's say you work at CompanyXYZ and they have a "gateway/proxy" to control their internet connection. So when you surf to this blog from behind that "gateway/proxy" (inside the company, using one of their computers on their internet connection), the statistics of the blog software will show that the visitor was surfing using CompanyXYZ IP address.

Hope that helps.

Most large companies use this kind of setup.

With regard to Howard's comment that I should "know better", I'd like him to email me to explain a bit more. Am I supposed to know better then to post here? Or what? I'm a bit confused. I have nothing against Howard or his family (I actually like both his kids, and Derek is a stud), and I don't believe I've ever posted anything negative towards him or them, or CCLI. My only "issue" is with the overall Bible Temple/City Bible philosophy of management/leadership.. nothing more.

In fact, I've always respected Howard as a "do-it-myself" businessman, who took an idea, struggled with it, and made it work. If I still lived in North America, I'd certainly take him up on the coffee offer. Howard, if you're ever in Corsica, France.. email me. :)

1/25/2006 03:07:00 PM  
Blogger KK said...

Hey Henri, I didn't know blogger.com recorded this info? If they do, where is it? Thanks for the info! Karli

1/25/2006 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Henri The Amazing said...

I wrote:

>> I actually like both his kids,
>> and Derek is a stud

BTW - I realize Howard also has another boy, Dryden, but I never got to know him as he was just born when I was living in Portland... :) (And sorry, Deryk, for the typo.)

Karli - not sure if all blogger accounts are equal. If yours has "stats", then it will be in there. Alternatively, you can use a "real" blogging system that is hosted elsewhere.. it'll have a lot more stats and functionality.

:)

1/25/2006 03:58:00 PM  
Blogger Eric Anderson said...

Kudos to Howard for having the brass to show up and put his two cents in. Much respect for that. Most of us are grown-ups here, and even if we don't agree, we can still create some healthy dialogue.

Regarding many of the elements of this "PI" incident though, I am not involved, so I will only say this...

I back Justin's comment regarding not trusting certain CBC leadership as being 100% honest. I had a very negative business dealing with another leader there where they didn't necessarily "lie", but they sure bent the truth to its breaking point!

And my 15 years of experience in and around TCS/TCHS/BT/PBC/CBC leadership tells me Justin shouldn't back down from feeling that way.

Again, not a reflection on Howard and this incident. Just a global observation.

1/25/2006 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger lamthekiller said...

I don't believe that's actually Howard Rachinski.

and I hate how people talk about someone when they think they wont ever see it, but then when they do then people try and apologize or say they said something different! Say something and stick to it. geez

1/25/2006 05:17:00 PM  
Blogger LMLab said...

Howard,

Thank you for posting. It shows courage! I do admire your business instinct and savvy.

I whole heartly agree with KariMichelle, "finding this space has been therapy & there is a common bond". I found you cannot have an honest debate or discussion with leadership at BT/CBC. To do this the party you are expressing concerns and opinions to (even if done gently and kindly) are dismissed as rebellious and offensive.

I also found relationships to be very shallow. Everything was just fine. Perfect life, perfect family. If you had problems something was wrong with you or you did'nt pray enough. This is why this site has been a healing to me. I read real feelings and emotions. Real questions and some well thought out conclusions.

I love the place I attend now. I can give my perspective or objection and am listened to. Also encouraged to hear from the Holy Spirit for myself.

Howard, I do wonder if you have ever questioned/challenged the leadership? What was the result? Just curious.

1/25/2006 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger oinvu4uraqt said...

I have to say honestly that when my father left us, Ms. Sharon Wagar and Donna Wagar-Lasit were wonderful to me. Donna was one of the only ones to reach out to me; she was a true friend. So I can't say anything bad about her even if I wanted to and I owe it to her to defend that part of her that I once knew. I'm not a BT hater but I do love this site because I have found others who understand about BT/CBC...I think this is good therapy for all of us. I feel if BT/CBC people would read this with an open mind, they'd be better for it.

1/25/2006 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to interupt, but I just finished listening to PF's latest sermon.

I heard something that I never heard from him, he told the church to by a book on doctrine. I was thinking , nice change of pace, then he recomends only one book and you guessed it , it is Keven Conner's book on basic christian docrine, and it is available at the bookstore.

PF also to said to stop praying generalized prayers because God is to busy for them, they don't move angels, they don't inspire the Holy Spirit, and God has a hard time fullfilling them. I should mention, to be fair, that this was said in the context of praying specific prayers.
1Tim.2:1-2 First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, ..... Sounds pretty general to me. I know that there are specific prayers in the word but general ones as well.

PF as well wants people to be praying for the singles to get married, he does qualify this by saynig you can be single and happy. But he wants you to pray for church congregation matchups. I guess marring outside CBC is being unequaly yoked.

Finaly, and I could say more but gotta split, Frank wants you to remove certain words or phrases from your faith vocabulary, ready for this. I can't, if only, I don't have the time, maybe, I don't believe, I'm not sure, and my personal favorite....... I'm afraid.
thank you Frank but I'm not sure that that is biblical, if only you could show me that in scripture I would entertain it, I just don't believe that God would not want me to express my doubts to Him and be honest ie. " Lord I believe but help my unbelief." Maybe you didn't mean that but I'm afraid that it is what you said, maybe next time you could get into the bible for more than 5 minutes on a Sunday morning but I can't believe you can teach an old dog new tricks.:)

1/26/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I clicked on the Howard link. There is a photo of him. He has HAIR. Where did that come from? I thought he was a shiny top?

1/26/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it is Howard or not who posted that response, i can validate that he did not hire a PI, i happen to know who it was and it was in that persons own interest that they looked into the people discussed.

1/27/2006 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also know who investigated them... no it wasn't a Private Investigator, yes it was someone who works for CCLI, yes they get paid a large hourly rate.

Does Howard really not know about this or is he a complete liar???

That's what I want to know.

1/27/2006 11:10:00 AM  

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